““Force and coercion are not a panacea.” What to do with “Bussification” — Pehnyo discusses with a member of the People’s Republic of Ukraine, an Azov resident and a representative of the Ground Forces December 4, 15:20 NV Premium Share: Preparation of mobilized enemy fortifications for an assault (Photo: Unit Training Center/Facebook) Author: Vasyl Pehnyo People’s deputy from the faction Holos, member of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence Solomiya Bobrovska, the head of the 12th special purpose brigade’s procurement center Yuriy Azov”, — write on: ua.news
Preparation of mobilized enemy fortifications for an assault (Photo: Unit Training Center/Facebook)
People’s deputy from the Voice faction, member of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence Solomiya Bobrovska, head of the manning center of the 12th special purpose brigade Azov Yuriy Havrylyshyn (Milan), Chairman of the Council of Reservists of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Ivan Tymochko and journalist Vasyl Pekhno discussed problematic issues of mobilization on the air of Radio NV, in particular “busification”, the possibility of reformatting TCC and recruiting.
Vasyl Pekhno: Solomia, I will ask you the first question. In addition to being a member of the Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence, which is a specialized committee on mobilization, you are also a member of the parliamentary commission on what we should do with the TCC. You have colleagues in the parliament — Anna Skorokhod, Yuliya Yatsyk — who have recently been very active in expressing various theses about the TCC, that they should be disbanded and switch to some kind of digitalized recruiting. Now the Ministry of Defense says: it will be possible to pass the VLK online, instead of going to the TCC. All this is done in order, as it were, to remove people’s fear of the great and terrible monster of the TCC. How do you feel about such remarks that it is necessary to disperse all this and it is possible to do something differently, in a new way? Taking into account all the circumstances that you managed to determine, study, understand and realize the whole process.
Solomiya Bobrovska: The statements of both Anna and my other colleague are their statements, but not those of the temporary investigative commission. TSK should already stop its work, the report should be voted on in the Verkhovna Rada. And in this way or will be continued [робота ТСК]or it will stop working.
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We have already had a conversation a number of times, first of all at the committee and not only there, about the reformatting of TCC and SP (social support). Do not forget, this is also in the functionality of TCC. Because we forget that they notify families of death, loss or disappearance [військових]they have to escort, [опікуватися] the issue of payments to the dead or missing persons. Even [налагоджувати] communication with the brigades, because now there are many brigades that do not communicate with the families of the dead, the missing, or the wounded. This is one of the biggest negatives from people to the Armed Forces.
Therefore, returning to TCC, it should not be about overclocking, but reformatting. First, their withdrawal from the Ground Forces. Let me remind you that a few months ago, the Da Vinci Wolves made a statement, and they were one of the first to launch their recruitment in Ukraine, that the land (Ground Forces – Ed.) takes people who come with Da Vinci’s Wolves connection, and that’s where all recruiting work stops. This public statement provoked the reaction of the Ministry of Defense: stop, the attitude of the people who came for recruiting should work. This story turned into the fact that a normal, adequate, more or less non-stealing of people from certain brigades, which were the first to open their recruiting centers, finally began.
V.P.: It is necessary to outline the problem, I think the general public seems to know it, but I want to go into detail. There are circumstances when a person comes with a recruiting attitude: I go to such and such a brigade. He goes to the TCC, gets to the training center, and from the center he goes not to the brigade where they are waiting, but where they will send him.
S.B.: These were mass stories, Natalka Kalmykova was still a patron at that time [міністра оборони України зпитань соціального розвитку]who has now become a minister [у справах] veterans Then it was said that let’s open our recruiting centers of the Armed Forces, we see that the TCC is not able to cope, there is resistance among the people. People with attitude from the brigades are simply canceled and sent somewhere. And this system began to be adjusted little by little.
The first brigades that started recruiting were Azov, Charter, 3rd OShBr and Vovki Da Vinci. Currently, this story has more or less stabilized.
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When we talk about the TCC and the use of force, and “busification” is the use of force… We agreed with the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense in May: dear, we increase your powers, powers and obligations of local self-government bodies, executive power, but you stop to use force, we no longer see in the media stealing people from the streets, when they take their arms and legs… I think it’s shameful. Whatever you want, but it seems to me that this is just such an anti-advertisement of service in the Armed Forces, and the TCC is the gateway to the Armed Forces, whether we like it or not.
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There were regions where this happened systematically: Zakarpattia, Odesa, Bukovyna. And systematically from these regions later, some of the training centers did not want to take people, because those people who were recruited from the street were parents of three children with a delay, people with disabilities, some other moments.
Moreover, we at the committee raised the question that when it comes to the responsibility of these TCC leaders – city, district or regional – in relation to this public busification, when it then merges, starting with strana.yua and ending with all other Ukrainian media… You won’t believe it, responsibility for the fact that force was used, [понесли] units It doesn’t happen like that, Ukrainians very often mirror the Russians, unfortunately, but in these cases we love our freedom and that’s not how it works with Ukrainians. This resistance begins. That’s why this shameful story with women came out, if I’m not mistaken, it was [у Космачі]Ivano-Frankivsk region (angry women attacked a woman who was with her daughter, thinking that she allegedly cooperated with the TCC and came to the village “to surrender men” — Ed.).
And these shameful things begin. We destroy with our own hands what we try to build. With all due respect to those who serve in the TCC, that is why there is such resistance, non-acceptance.