“The situation around NABU and SAP demonstrates that the state is finally getting rid of the “inviolable castes”. These bodies are not effective and have mostly lost society. And the case of corruption or combating it is increasingly used in Ukraine as a tool for combating political or business opponents. This is what the Ukrainian civil servant, the former first deputy chairman of the Dnieper Regional State Administration Vladimir Orlov.”, – WRITE ON: ua.news
The situation around NABU and SAP demonstrates that the state is finally getting rid of the “inviolable castes”. These bodies are not effective and have mostly lost society. And the case of corruption or combating it is increasingly used in Ukraine as a tool for combating political or business opponents.
This is what Ukrainian civil servant, former first deputy chairman of the Dnieper Regional State Administration, considers Vladimir Orlov. In an interview with UA.news, he shared his thoughts on the future anti -corruption structures, the Presidential Law on the Restoration of NABU Independence, Anti -Governmental Protests, his work in ARMA, etc. Next is Vladimir Orlov’s direct language.
That happened around NABU and SAP
We finally came to the moment the state should put fuses from uncontrolled. NABU and SAP have been in a state of practical integrity for a long time – without effective supervision, without feedback from society. My case is a prime example: a matter fabricated with the participation of a citizen of the Russian Federation, law enforcement officers made a maximum of provocation, and SAP did not even try to check the authenticity of the data. In such circumstances, no tool can remain “autonomous” – it turns into tools of political or business massacres. That is why I support a reform that allows the Prosecutor General to have levers of supervision and intervention in the event of gross disorders. It is not about “destruction of independence”, but about settings, for which even anti -corruption bodies are not entitled to go. Otherwise, we will not get an anti -corruption system, but an uncontrolled punitive structure.
About the Presidential Law on NABU Independence Restoration
This is not about “NABU subordination”, as they try to submit it, but about a completely logical and justified step: establishing procedural control over NABU and SAP activities. That is, not the independence of the anti -corner, but its uncontrolled. It’s right. The head of the SAP is not some saint. It is the same employee who can act in excess of authority or in the interests of third parties. In my case, for example, the SAP prosecutor did not check the obvious provocation and closed his eyes to participate in the Russian citizen as a key witness. Where is the objectivity here?
Another issue is a transparent competition with international experts. It looks beautiful, but there is no rule of the Constitution that would provide for the participation of foreign observers in the selection of the head of the law enforcement agencies. It is a political PR, not a legal argument. The law should ensure a balance rather than turn independence into inviolability.
About protests to support NABU and SAP
The protests that arose after the adoption of Law No. 12414 were not the protection of NABU or SAP as such. Most of the shares have no clear idea what these abbreviations mean and what real role these organs play. People did not go out for anti -corruption structures – they came out against the general political course, because of the accumulated disappointment, despair in power and institutions. Law No. 12414 did not abolish NABU and SAP, did not eliminate their activities and did not limit it in resources. Its essence is in establishing minimal control by the Prosecutor General, which is absolutely legal and does not go beyond the constitutional model of the justice system. This is not the curtailment of reforms, but the state’s response to real abuse in the anti -corruption sphere that remained out of control.
That will be with NABU
The logical completion of this history is institutional integration. NABU as a pre -trial investigation body can be integrated into the structure of the State Bureau of Investigation as a separate specialized department with focus for anti -corruption crimes. The SAP, in turn, should become a full unit of the Prosecutor General’s Office with all the consequences: procedural control, organizational unity and responsibility to the state, not just public observers. This approach will ensure both the balance of independence and the supervisory mechanism, which will make it impossible to use political manipulations and the uncontrolled use of powers.
About (not) NABU effectiveness
Comparing NABU with the DBR or the National Police, there is no reason to believe that the bureau is more effectively or productive. All of these bodies have both some successful cases and system problems: political influence, personnel scandals, accusations of selectivity and inefficiency. At the same time, only NABU is presented as a “special tool”, devoid of external control. This is a false model. The state must have a unified criminal prosecution system, in which all bodies work under the same conditions – under prosecutorial supervision and within the general legal field.
The current model does not have an effective mechanism for challenging NABU actions. They are covered with a shield “features” and international support. However, the involvement of foreign observers or civic activists is not an indulgence from human rights abuses or abuse. In a democratic state, no body can be removed from public control, so Pacicel. Equality and transparency in the work of all law enforcement officers, regardless of the name of their institution is needed.
About the corruption investigation of NABU against Vladimir Orlov
As for my case, which was fabricated by NABU. In 2024, I was unjustifiably accused of committing a criminal offense under Part 4 of Art. 368 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. However, even a superficial analysis of the case file indicates the presence of signs of a crime provocation. A person who is a key witness of the prosecution – a citizen of Russia Gonchar (he also Torop, Shevchenko, Karpenko) – changed the person at least three times, has a Russian passport and the status of a classified “witness”. It was this person who acted as a provocateur: initiated contacts, promoted the idea of “assistance”, and I did not make any proposal, did not require anything and did not make decisions. This is the key. The prosecutor himself knows that his witness manipulates facts and gives contradictory testimony. The judge sees it and watches it, although obviously even for a non -specialist that the case has numerous violations. I really wanted to substitute, I was slipped, but I did not behave. And now all this design is kept only at the provocative agent who do not withstand elementary logical verification.
About the “shadow side” of NABU
The “shadow side” of NABU is not a myth, but a reality. As early as 2023, numerous facts were revealed in the framework of investigations conducted by other law enforcement agencies, including the SBU, which testify to Abuse of NABU. In particular, the searches were documented in the searches that have been “under the cloth” for years. It is not only about selective justice, but also about cooperation with citizens of the Russian Federation, provocateurs with Russian passports, doing business in the territory of the aggressor state. This gives the impression that the fight against corruption in some cases turns into a tool of political or economic pressure. NABU often operates not as an impartial law enforcement authority, but as a participant in the game with their interests, addictions and orders.
About corruption cases as a way of accounting accounts
This is a reality, not some exceptions. In my case, the situation is indicative. In a sideline conversation, one of the lawyers, which was relevant to NABU -related affairs, directly stated that you had a specific task, you had to “knock down”. There was nothing to find – the potter slipped. This person already had problems with the law and, in fact, hung on the hook, because in case of failure to fulfill the role of the provocateur would sit for fraud. NABU, for its part, used this vulnerability. Even the person involved in the existence of the appropriate task was even involved in other cases – Magomedrasulov, who in informal circumstances told me: “We will close it because we were given a command.” This not only beats my reputation, but also demonstrates a systemic disease. Corruption tools are transformed into a political elimination means where provocations, artificial affairs and background arrangements become the norm.
About work in arma
My experience in ARMA is a systematic launch and real results. I was almost at the origins of the creation of an ARMA regional unit in the Dnieper. The work was built from scratch – from organizational issues to inter -institutional coordination. I held dozens of meetings with representatives of law enforcement agencies, business, local authorities, as well as with an academic environment. We have signed a memorandum on cooperation with the University of Customs and Finance, which allowed to involve scientific expertise in solving a number of professional issues.
The first arrested in criminal proceedings were officially posted in Savings Bank accounts – it was a practical step towards filling the budget and strengthening transparency. Work with the regional administration was also established, which allowed the regional level to synchronize. From the beginning of its creation, the unit has worked openly, constructively and effectively. Unfortunately, today ARMA is increasingly mentioned in a scandalous context – and it hurts, because I know what potential this tool has in the hands of professionals.
As for the current state of ARMA
The condition of the ARMA today can be described as “degradation due to incompetence”. Frankly, I do not follow the current events around the agency. But I can say one thing: what is happening is the logical completion of the degradation process. The body that had potential and could actually work to strengthen law and order and transparency was actually nullified. The reason is in personnel decisions. Opaque competitions were incompetent people who have neither professionalism nor strategic vision. Professionals either displaced or marginalized. As a result: a structure that could be one of the key in the reform of justice, today has actually lost confidence and effectiveness.
About the future of anti -corruption organs
The future of anti -corruption bodies is a gradual dying. As it happens in most European countries. There are no separate “anti -corruption bureaus”, “specialized prosecutors” or similar structures – their functions are integrated into the general justice system. And this is the right model. Anti-corruption should not be a political slogan and not a PR tool for combating opponents, but everyday, systematic work of classical bodies of pre-trial investigation and prosecutor’s office. Otherwise, these institutions will remain a simple influence or turn into closed castes with their own uncontrolled influence mechanisms.