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Spiegel: Macron and Mertz fear that “the USA may betray Ukraine and Europe”

The Spiegel magazine, referring to the transcript of the telephone conversation, reports that during the consultations, the leaders of France and Germany directly spoke about the risk that the United States, conducting negotiations with Russia regarding a possible peace agreement, may make decisions that are contrary to the interests of Ukraine and Europe.”, — write: www.pravda.com.ua

The Spiegel magazine, referring to the transcript of the telephone conversation, reports that during the consultations, the leaders of France and Germany directly spoke about the risk that the United States, conducting negotiations with Russia regarding a possible peace agreement, may make decisions that are contrary to the interests of Ukraine and Europe.

Source: “European truth” with reference to Spiegel

Details: The call comes after a day of talks in Florida last weekend involving the Ukrainian delegation and Trump’s team.

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French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, Finnish President Alexander Stubb, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Haar Støre, Italian Prime Minister George Maloni, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, as well as EU leaders – President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen and President of the European Council took part in the conversation with the President of Ukraine. Antonio Costa.

During the conversation, Macron allegedly said about the “probability that the US will betray Ukraine in matters of territories, without clarity on security guarantees.” Also, according to the transcript, he added that he sees a “great threat” to Zelenskyi (the publication does not specify the specific context in which this was said).

Mertz, according to the transcript, said Zelensky needed to be “very careful in the coming days.”

“They are playing a game – both with you and with us,” said the Chancellor of Germany.

The President of Finland, Alexander Stubb, said at one point in the conversation that “we (Europeans) we should not leave Ukraine and Volodymyr alone with these guys.”

“I agree with Alexander, we have to protect Volodymyr,” Rütte added.

The press services of the President of Finland and the Secretary General of NATO did not respond to Spiegel’s request for comment on the veracity of their information.

Several eyewitnesses to the conversation, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed to the publication that such a call had taken place and the content of the conversation was accurately conveyed, but declined to confirm specific quotes. Zelensky told journalists that they would not comment.

The Elysee Palace denies that Macron spoke of a “threat of treason” from the US.

“The president did not express himself in such terms,” ​​the response noted, but did not provide quotes, citing the confidentiality of the leaders’ conversation. At the same time, the press service recalled Macron’s public statements, where he positively commented on the role of the United States in the negotiations.

Mertz said that they did not want to comment on the merged fragments of the conversation.

We will remind:

On December 4, the Secretary of the National Security Council Rustem Umyerov, who heads the Ukrainian delegation at the negotiations with the United States, leaves for Florida againto learn in detail about the results of the negotiations between Trump’s special representative, Steve Witkoff, and the ruler of the Russian Federation in Moscow.

Read also the “EP” article from Brussels: NATO without States, OSCE without Russia? How the Kremlin and the White House are building a new scheme of “peace” in Europe.

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